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VanceS contributed 132 messages,
2 emotes during 49 minutes. 2007.08.05 05:13:29 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. VanceS: Hi Cheryl CherylO: Hi Vance, Hi Bill, thought I was going to be here alone billc: Hi Cheryl and Bance billc: Sorry, Vance VanceS: hi Vill VanceS: I mean Bill billc: typo first thing. . . . billc: y'all veen here long? VanceS: I just got here billc -) CherylO: just arrived VanceS: I had to put ten dollars on my cc for the priviledge CherylO: vance, lots of webheads taking webcastacademy and doing very well. VanceS: George Bush Airport, Houston DennisOl joined the room. CherylO: I wondered where you were vance billc: Hey Dennis CherylO: Hello DennisO VanceS: Cheryl, Bee needs someone to stream her plenary on Aug 10 DennisOl: Hi, folks. billc: airports really stick it to you for access, don't they? VanceS: not necessarily VanceS: Phoenix is free CherylO: I know, we are working on it, I am on vacation for the 8th to the 12. and in the mtns. VanceS: that's my next stop VanceS: I'll be right there by Dennis billc: that's nice, wish more would follow suit DennisOl: Wow! VanceS: in a couple of hours VanceS: Just passting through CherylO: Vance have you and Dennis met f2f, yet? VanceS: heading for Long Beach DennisOl: Too bad that you won't be here very long, Vance. billc: where ya headed Vance? Big conference? VanceS: no, we haven't I don't think VanceS: No, winding up summer hols DennisOl: Actually we have, but it was a long time ago. DennisOl: We met briefly in Vancouver, BC. VanceS: a tesol conf dennis? billc: yup, that time of year. . . VanceS: which year DennisOl: Yes. DennisOl: 2000 or 2001. VanceS: The most recent or the one before DennisOl: The one before. VanceS: I mean I've been to two in Vancouver VanceS: I think the first was in the 90's DennisOl: No, it was 2000, I think. Let me check. VanceS: where did we meet Dennis? In what context? billc: Cheryl, you mentioned the webcast academy, I've heard of it, but not sure what it is. . . CherylO: it is part of the worldbridges.net network and people can learn to stream content. Like Carla is working on getting a show brazilbridges, I have a show womenofweb 2.0 DennisOl: Yes, it was 2000. You gave a workshop or presentation on the Webheads and I talked to you briefly after it. CherylO: There are others with Jeff Lebow at worldbridges and Dave Cormier at edtechtalk.com VanceS: great Dennis, I wish you had emphasised that we would be working closely in the near future billc: sounds cool. Can't imagine really learning something like streaming very easily on one's own VanceS: cheryl, are you talking right now? billc: Oh, that's where I heard about it DafneG joined the room. CherylO: you can learn it all online in the 5 week course. Actually VAnce Susan Ettenheim and I are teaching. go figure DafneG hugs and kisses all on both cheeks CherylO: Hello Dafne DennisOl: Dafne! Abrazos! VanceS: Hi Daf CherylO: kiss kiss billc: Hey Dafne VanceS: Cheryl, I've done one webcast academy so when I return to Abu Dhabi VanceS: I can pick up where I left off CherylO: you sure can pick up where you left off. VanceS: I've got my initial recording up already CherylO: Vance this group is very collaborative and are helping one another with practice times and streaming it is great. DennisOl: I'm interested in the Webcast Academy, but the timing wasn't right for me to get involved in the current one. VanceS: Bee has no one who can stream for her though with 99.9% surety billc: When do these usually take place? CherylO: Actually Jeff is going to graduate next Sat. 17:00 GMT I believe. He will be the first graduate. JoseR will graduate the following Sat. DafneG: I would have liked to start the webcast academy session, but it caught me in the middle of my flight to Spain VanceS: Jeff ... ?? lebow?? CherylO: Yes, no one has officialy graduated. DennisOl: Are you in Spain now, Dafne? DafneG: yes, I am in Spain, Dennis :-) VanceS: how are the street parties? CherylO: I know we are looking to help Bee. I am away on vacation in the mtns. and no good connections for internet DennisOl: Wonderful! :-) VanceS: I have been able to stream from Abu Dhabi but each time I've done it VanceS: I've lost contact with the streaming server after 5 min VanceS: I can't promise Bee I can hold the stream at this moment CherylO: OH, vance, that is discouraging VanceS: I'll be back in Abu Dhabi on Aug 9 CherylO: we will keep looking. VanceS: I could play with it then billc: Do you all use a common server when working on streaming? VanceS: we use the worldbridges sandbox server DafneG: Officially, I will be here until September, Dennis CherylO: yes, we use the worldbridges servers, don't get too technicial on me now bill VanceS: it's dead simple, kind of like flying a plane VanceS: upside down in a fog VanceS: while checking chat windows and whatnot billc: oh, that's good, can't say i've piloted before billc: but crashing a server is probably a little less dramatic. . . VanceS: just a matter of getting all the sound devices working off the same settings VanceS: plus some soft devices like virtual audio cables VanceS: so you can get both sides of a skype chat VanceS: and pulling in your side through a usb mic VanceS: which is part of the configuration mix VanceS: that and VAC CherylO: I am Mac, Vance so I don't understand VAC, is it a piece of software vs. actual cables ClaireB joined the room. CherylO: hello claire billc: Hey Claire SusanR joined the room. CherylO: susan r, hello VanceS: yes, virtual audio cables basically runs a wire from your out jack to your in jack DennisOl: Cheryl: It's possible to stream on a Mac via Nicecast. VanceS: but not physically, internally billc: Hi Susan CherylO: okay, now I get it SusanR: Hi Cheryl DafneG hugs Claire DennisOl: Hi, Claire! Hugs! VanceS: so it's digital not analog VanceS: and has not static VanceS: pure sound CherylO: digital not analog, got it. CherylO: good explanation SusanR waves a hearty hello to everyone DafneG: hey, Susan :-) DennisOl: Hi, Susan! SusanR: Hi Dafne CherylO: susanr, are you traveling? what time zone? ClaireB left the room (signed off). VanceS: so you play the skypecast out thru VAC and back IN to your sound card SusanR: aestern time zone VanceS: and pick up the USB input from the mic SusanR: eastern CherylO: oh, the whole sound card thing. ClaireB joined the room. VanceS: and stream it thru simulcast VanceS: and bobs your uncle CherylO: Where are you on the east coast? VanceS: that's all there is to it SusanR: Ottawa, Ontario VanceS: that and holding the connection to the server ClaireB: hi guys VanceS: whihc is where I fall off ClaireB hugs all DafneG hugs Claire again :-) ClaireB: Dennis! so good to see you here! SusanR: we are inland ClaireB: was I here before? CherylO: so vance is it a bandwidth thing? DennisOl: Thanks, Claire! VanceS: hi claire DafneG: yes, Claire billc: so going into the sound card, you use the mic jack or the line in? VanceS: not sure Cheryl VanceS: havn't had time to play with it VanceS: maybe I'll see what I can do on Aug 9 CherylO: okay, i am sure Jeff can get that technical with you while watching the server, I can't do that yet. VanceS: the only physical in Bill is the USB mic DennisOl: I gather that getting the configurations set up correctly is one of the trickiest parts of the streaming process. DennisOl: That and having the right kind of mic. DafneG: I will try the webcast academy when I am settled again CherylO: you are right dennis, and having the settings stick VanceS: everything else is thru the sound card as it's picked up from whatever audio you're monitoring DennisOl: Yes. ClaireB: daf, i was trying to log on before but didn't quite make it and had to try again CherylO: Dafne, you would get it very quickly, you are so good DennisOl: I have to leave for a few minutes, but I'll be back . . . . . DafneG: thanks Cheryl, but I am not very techie VanceS: Dennis the usB mic is important billc: so what is special about the mic besides that it's usb? VanceS: not expensive VanceS: and yes the settings are the tricky part VanceS: you make a checklist VanceS: that's why it's like flying a plane ClaireB: daf is VERY good CherylO: Dafne, you don't have to be very techie, it is the set up. Carla is very close to getting Brazilbridges going, I am so excited VanceS: pilots use checklists too ClaireB: i use checklists billc: checklists are good. Just saw a blog saying that is the key to doing a thesis. . . CherylO: checklists yes, absolutely, and checking settings that just switch automatically, when youa re not looking VanceS: the usb mic is important because it takes sound NOT thru the line in on the sound card VanceS: if you do that with skype it is not recordd DafneG: I need to be at my own computer to do that, so I have to wait :-( NinaTL joined the room. DafneG hugs Nina from Spain CherylO: hello Nina, long time! billc: Hello Nina NinaTL hugs everybody ClaireB: hi nina ClaireB hugs nina NinaTL: It's great to see you all, especially Dafne joining us from Spain! ClaireB: and vance from texas! VanceS left the room (signed off). Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. NinaTL: I didn't think I'd be able to come today DafneG: wb, Vance VanceS: me neither NinaTL: AGU in America is in full swing billc: here in Thailand it's almost bed time NinaTL: The group arrived Thursday VanceS: thailand, cool VanceS: where in Thailand billc: Chiang Mai, in the north billc: It's about as cool as it gets here. . . VanceS: very nice ClaireB: definitely breakfast time in pitsburgh NinaTL: Are you American, Bill? billc: yup, from Minnesota DafneG: how lucky, Thailand VanceS: I like chiang mai tho i hardly recognized it last time I was there NinaTL: How long have you lived in Thailand? billc: yeah, little change of environment billc: been here about 9 years NinaTL: So you must like it! VanceS: what do you do there? billc: Yeah, nice place to be. I'm a computer instructor at an international school here VanceS: what's not to like in thailand billc: middle/high school students NinaTL: Do you speak Thai, Bill? VanceS: it's one of my favorite countries NinaTL: I don't know, I've never been to Thailand, although I have taught lots of Thai students VanceS: mai pom pud pasau thai a crap billc: yeah, get along alright. Wife's Thai, it helps a lot in the speaking end VanceS: na crap NinaTL: Vance, are you swearing? billc: hey, very nice, Vance DafneG: lol ClaireB: vance, stop swearing at us billc: Where'd you learn? NinaTL: Daf, are you on vacation or working in Spain? VanceS: no that's an honorific na crap NinaTL: honorific crap, huh? VanceS: but only men use that one NinaTL: Figures DafneG: on vacation, I guess, looking for a job also ClaireB: lol nina! NinaTL: Really? billc: I can confirm that, crap is not quite the same as in English VanceS: what do women say bill? NinaTL: Fortunately VanceS: slips my mind NinaTL: maybe na shit? billc: of course it's usually spelled with Thai characters too DafneG: lol, Nina NinaTL blushes and apologizes billc: the honorific for women is ka VanceS: ka yes NinaTL: Sawadika NinaTL: or something like that VanceS: thai women are so sweet when they say ka billc: hey, wow, we have a lot of Thai speakers here NinaTL: I am definitely NOT a Thai speaker VanceS: yes and I say sawadi crap NinaTL: Any luck with the job search, Daf? billc: well, you have a couple of words anyway NinaTL: Vance, will you please stop swearing? There are ladies present! DafneG: still hunting, Nina billc: so Vance, how many languages do you know then? NinaTL: What does "know" mean? VanceS: good question billc: good point NinaTL: If they have any brains they will snap you up, Daf VanceS: I mull on Nina's point NinaTL: People often ask me how many languages I "know" NinaTL: I can never answer that question NinaTL: Dennis, you aren't saying much--are you lurking? ClaireB: i always answer that i barely know englihs ClaireB: english billc: seems like i've heard Thai, Portuguese, and Spanish coming out of your keyboard a least ClaireB: vance knows arabic too VanceS: I was just in France and Spain NinaTL: Lucky you! VanceS: I can understand and speak french pretty well billc: guess Spain is the place to go these days. . . VanceS: in Spain I can speak ok but don't always understand VanceS: so I guess i don't 'know' spanish VanceS: my arabic is about the same as that as well NinaTL: That's the problem with "know" VanceS: I can get around, but can't discuss politics NinaTL: I have the same problem with the word "bilingual" NinaTL: I took a class on bilingualism in grad school billc: yeah, bilingual can be sort of a tricky term, huh? NinaTL: I had always thought bilingual meant equally competent in 2 languages VanceS: a good test is whether you can understand radio NinaTL: but the professor said almost nobody is truly equally competent NinaTL: Everyonbody's competencies vary to some degree NinaTL: *everybody's billc: I have to confess that i'm not equally competent, my English is getting lost bit by bit NinaTL: So there is no clear line between bilingual and unilingual but having some competence in L2 VanceS: that can't happen Bill, it's your native language billc: guess it's sort of give and take. . . VanceS: your native language is instinctive (Pinker) NinaTL: Bill, you feel you speak Thai better than English? Or just you have slipped a bit in English? billc: I've heard some westerners who have been here for a while speak some pretty original English billc: Just lost some specialized terminology from time to time NelbaQ joined the room. NinaTL: My husband has forgotten some Greek words NelbaQ: Morning, everybody! :) DennisOl: Nelba! Abrazos! NinaTL hugs Nelba billc: Hi Nelba VanceS: Hi Nelba CherylO: hi Nelba DafneG hugs Nelba NelbaQ: Ni, Nina, Daf, Vance NinaTL: When we go to Greece, he sometimes forgets which language he is speaking and inserts English words into his conversation NinaTL: I have to kick him NelbaQ: I am a bit sleepy billc: That's funny, sometimes that happens to me when i'm tired billc: I have to kick myself. . . billc: How many languages does your husband speak Nina? billc: What time is it for you, Nelba? ClaireB: hi nelba NinaTL: Just Greek and English MoiraH joined the room. billc: Oh, how often do you go to Greece? NinaTL: Well the last time was 2002 Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception t the room (signed off). VanceS: IE crash billc: welcome back Vance ClaireB: lol vance VanceS: I'm back on Mozilla now DafneG: and I am going for late lunch. This is the last day of the town celebrations MoiraH: Hi Vance ClaireB: yea for mozilla billc: good choice VanceS: daf before you go VanceS: I want to show you one url DafneG: yes, Vance VanceS: http://advanceducation.blogspot.com/ DennisOl: It's been wonderful to run into you here, Dafne! VanceS: some reflections to get us thinking about the next WiAOC VanceS: for anyone who's interested MoiraH: i'd like to warn everybody about a nasty inbox virus I got by accident from Teresa called Humor Trdela VanceS: I mention this now becuase I've got to catch a plane in a few minutes billc left the room (signed off). NelbaQ: Tell, them there is a Spanish section about writingmatrix project, Vance. MoiraH: It automatically szends emails to your contacts in your name and based on confidence, you open them and you are then infested§ Took me a while to get rid of it VanceS: ok, I will in a second ClaireB: yes, i got the same thing from teresa and from others in portugal NinaTL: Yuck, scary BillC joined the room. VanceS: you just open the mails or do you click on an attachment MoiraH: You too Claire? SusanR . o O ( can anyone recommend a site or so to learn Spanish..whe you have a free moment ) ClaireB: but it was caught by my university spam catcher DafneG: thanks Vance :-) NinaTL: Can you get a virus without opening an atachment (from an email I mean)? VanceS: good daf MoiraH: It scared me seeing it being sent out then in my name and I cold do nothing VanceS: I have to leave in a few minutes ClaireB: susan, which skill do you want to focus on? DafneG: I will read it this evening when I am back SusanR: basic beginner Spanish VanceS: thanks Daf ClaireB: there are some basic spanish resources here: http://www.polyglot.pitt.edu/web/spanishlinks.html VanceS: and for Dennis, a good stalwart MoiraH: I spent ages scanning for all the nasties and in fact missed Cris's dissertation because of it as I wanted to get rid of it before infecting more people :-( DafneG hugs everybody goodbye VanceS: and anyone else who wants to join the next WiAOC NelbaQ: Where are you from Claire? VanceS: in the planning stage ClaireB hugs daf NinaTL: Daf, great to see you here ClaireB: i live in pittsburgh, pa right now NinaTL hugs Daf and wishes her luck VanceS: I'm thinking of having the next conference AFTER the jobs are spoken for ClaireB: you are in argentina, nelba, right? MoiraH: Vance, it comes in the form of an email from a friend and there is a link inthe email DennisOl: Muchos abrazos, Dafne--y mis mas finos deseos para lo que buscas en españa! MoiraH: based on trust, you click :-( DafneG: gracias, Dennis VanceS: so you click on the link? how does it prompt you to do that DafneG: besos a todos NelbaQ: yes, Claire. MoiraH: besos Daf :-)) NinaTL: I think some people are very cautious about email links--they prefer to copy and paste NelbaQ: besitos, Daf :) NinaTL: but I tend to click on the links, especially in friends' emails DennisOl smiles and sends more hugs VanceS hugs Daf ClaireB: nelba, a few weeks ago i was in brazil DafneG left the room (signed off). ClaireB is miffed because vance hugs daf and not her NelbaQ: really., Claire. Where? ClaireB: i went to sao paulo and brasilia and rio de janeiro RitaZ joined the room. ClaireB: hi rita ClaireB hugs rita VanceS: and for Spanish speakers Nelba wanted me to mention the Writingmatrix Moodle VanceS: with the thread on blogging in Spanish RitaZ hugs all friends! VanceS: Hi Rita DennisOl: Rita! Abrazos! MoiraH: Hi Rita NelbaQ: Hi, Rita VanceS: you can find the link at http://www.vancestevens.com/writing.htm VanceS: It's just gone 8 am in Houston and my plane is at 8:30 VanceS hugs Rita NelbaQ: hurry. up, Vance! VanceS: yeah, I'll have to mosey on over there ClaireB: have a good flight, vance RitaZ hugs Vance and wishes him a good flight to California DennisOl: I wish I could see you in Phoenix, but I won't be able to get to the airport. NelbaQ: I would like to invite you to the Spanish section of writing matrix. VanceS: can you wave from the freeway Dennis? VanceS: I can look out the window MoiraH: Have a great flight Vance :-) BillC: Enjoy the free access in Phoenix, Vance! NelbaQ: You know that English is the language of technology and Spanish speakers very little material. VanceS: thanks Bill VanceS: if you're still on line when I land, see you then NelbaQ: CU in Abu Dabi, Vance. have a nice flight! BillC: ok VanceS: adios, hasta Phoenix DennisOl: Yes, I can do that, Vance! DennisOl: I'll be thinking about you! VanceS: look for a big US AIr plane Dennis VanceS: cya later VanceS left the room (signed off).
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